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 OCP2 #3 Discussion   

 By 3.51Efisio 

 23/10/2012 

 11:06 am 

Thousands of gangsters just like you voted on one of the suggestions in the OCP2 vote of the day. From those suggestions we say goodbye to 34 and we will continue with the top 8. In this topic you can discuss these suggestions and convince others why you are in favour of one suggestion or why you are against this! Also some of these suggestions need to get more specified, what exactly do you mean by oldschool ranking? You also can discuss these suggestions in the #OCP2 channel on the chat. I will put a message on the Omerta facebook page(international+dm version) when I am there.

The top 8 suggestions in a random order are:

Stronger accounts (harder to kill)
Remove tiredness
Shoot the bottle
Bring back oldomerta
Texas Hold\'em
Ranks beyond Bruglione
Remove the lackeys
Oldschool ranking back

Keep the posts on topic and in English, this also counts for the IRC channel!

Edit: Will close this discussion Sunday at 16:00 OT unless people are discussing things then very intensive

 By 3.51Carter 

 23/10/2012 

 11:24 am 

Shoot the bottle !
Bring back oldomerta
Remove the lackeys
Oldschool ranking back

#2

 By 3.51Efisio 

 23/10/2012 

 11:26 am 


Quote: Carter on 11:24:01 23-10-2012
Shoot the bottle !
Bring back oldomerta
Remove the lackeys
Oldschool ranking back

#2


Why do you want to shoot the bottle? If you are shooting the bottle you won\'t be able to earn money with doing crimes, and everything already costs so much money!

Which oldomerta? Most of the versions are different to eachother so what do you mean with that?

And what is oldschool ranking?

 By 3.51Lupo 

 23/10/2012 

 11:27 am 

Remove tiredness
Shoot the bottle

Only two that really matter

 By 3.51Efisio 

 23/10/2012 

 11:29 am 


Quote: Lupo on 11:27:23 23-10-2012
Remove tiredness
Shoot the bottle

Only two that really matter


But why do they matter?

If you shoot the bottle you earn less money...
And since you want to remove the tiredness how are you thinking about the lackeys? Many people also want the lackeys removed, do you still want to keep them?


 By 3.51Mikee 

 23/10/2012 

 11:30 am 

shoot the bottle is for pussys afraid to shoot.

evvveryone 100ks at lc, ye thats an awesome way to reward people who actually DO shoot

imo, make accounts of people who shoot a lot harder to kill. and dont remove lackeys everyone s lazy now and almost no one will rank manual anymore.

 By 3.51Carter 

 23/10/2012 

 11:31 am 


Quote: Efisio on 11:26:54 23-10-2012


Why do you want to shoot the bottle? If you are shooting the bottle you won\'t be able to earn money with doing crimes, and everything already costs so much money!

Which oldomerta? Most of the versions are different to eachother so what do you mean with that?

And what is oldschool ranking?


Then you get to choose, Would you rather make money on crimes, Or develop kill skill? Why should admins determine what we can do with crimes, why be obligated to ONLY make money and not further our kill skill, it should be a choice.


 By 3.51Gmac 

 23/10/2012 

 11:32 am 

Stronger Accounts: No, I\'d say the ease of killing is about right. It\'s pretty easy/fast to rebirth+lackey anyway
Remove Tiredness: Yes, tiredness is like forcing everyone in a race to carry weights because you know a few are cheating. Pointless and frustrating.
Shoot the Bottle: Can\'t have this with lackeys operating in the game simultaneously. If lackeys were removed, maybe, but even still, not necessary.
Bring back oldomerta: Not sure what this means exactly.
Texas Hold-em: Sure
Ranks beyond Bruglione: No, terrible and pointless idea
Remove the lackeys: Yes, they\'re bad for the game LT. Realistically not going to happen though.
Old school ranking bank: As in slower? Maybe a little.

 By 3.51Carter 

 23/10/2012 

 11:34 am 


Quote: Efisio on 11:26:54 23-10-2012


Why do you want to shoot the bottle? If you are shooting the bottle you won\'t be able to earn money with doing crimes, and everything already costs so much money!

Which oldomerta? Most of the versions are different to eachother so what do you mean with that?

And what is oldschool ranking?
And Also, Old school Omerta is going back to 1.0-1.3, where life was simple. you could pickpocket from players, get kill skill, and have fun. You didn\'t have lackeys, tiredness, and none of the bullshit you have today. Things took a change for the worse. For the new players coming in, They don\'t know what the TRUE experience of Omerta was, because they came in a version that\'s be doped up on upgrades and new features and takes away from the REAL experience they should be receiving.


 By 3.51Spartan 

 23/10/2012 

 11:51 am 

Yes
Stronger accounts
The only thing that needs to be stronger about accounts at the moment is backfire though. It doesn\'t seem to be balanced. As we have seen in the recent wars, backfire is pretty much useless, while the amount of failed kills is about right.

Remove tiredness
Tiredness is just a way to fuck everyone\'s ranking up. Remove it, everyone will be happy, whether it are people who rank manually or lackey rankers.

No
Shoot the bottle
Was and will be useless after Swindler+ as that\'s when people reached 100% KS..

Bring back oldomerta
The idolising of Old Omerta is the same as old demented people saying how much better life was back in the 40s

Remove the lackeys
People\'s ranking spirit has become numb because of lackeys, removing lackeys now will only lead to people turning to scripts or quiting, only a small portion of the people might actually rank manually (much less than before lackeys were introduced).

Oldschool ranking back
Wasn\'t much different.

Maybe
Texas Hold\'em
I don\'t gamble, so I don\'t really care, but Hold\'em is a much better way than the current bullshit poker :\')

Ranks beyond Bruglione
Depends very much on the amount of ranks and the speed of those ranks.

 By 3.51Kenpachi 

 23/10/2012 

 11:51 am 

i am pro lackey cuz it enables me to focus on things that mather in reallife, if i rank manuel all i do is omerta, an get nothing else done
an i might consider using script if in case lackeys ever gets removed since i got now the taste of it (long standing record of no akill)

i am against tiredness, why.. sometimes i play 12 hours, other day 4, an then 16 hours, omerta also should be always playable to be able to compete with the other games


those 2 mather for me most

lackeys needs to stay
tiredness needs to go

 By 3.51Tengri 

 23/10/2012 

 11:53 am 

Ranks beyond Bruglione
Stronger accounts (harder to kill)




 By 3.51Icon 

 23/10/2012 

 12:01 pm 

Stronger accounts (harder to kill): Not really necasarry, just change the KA. Strenght --> Position based instead of what BG\'s you have.

Remove tiredness: YES Ofcourse. It\'s the most stupid thing, it misses the goal ( Stop scripters )

Shoot the bottle: Only if you also bring back KS shooting
Bring back oldomerta:
Texas Hold\'em: Yes, or atleast remove the old poker.
Ranks beyond Bruglione: Not to much.
Remove the lackeys: Make it an option for like 4 hours a day
Oldschool ranking back: Rank speed is ok now.

 By 3.51Manager 

 23/10/2012 

 12:19 pm 

No to:

With Lackeys every account will have 100% ks before even reaching the rank of Chief, so when everyone has 100% ks the use of killing skill is gone.
Add shoot the bottle and you might just aswell remove the use of killing skill. Keep killing skill for people that actually shoot someone.


Extra ranks after Bruglione, same story as the shoot the bottle story, Everyone will rank with lackeys anyway, it doesn\'t matter how many ranks you have, you\'ll have to keep adding more because everyone will reach to the maxrank with lackeys. Just keep it the way it is.

Yes:
I\'d prefer to see the comeback of the casinobank in combination with the pickpocketing from other families crime option.

 By 3.51Stonevic 

 23/10/2012 

 12:21 pm 


Quote: Mikee on 11:30:39 23-10-2012
shoot the bottle is for pussys afraid to shoot.

evvveryone 100ks at lc, ye thats an awesome way to reward people who actually DO shoot

imo, make accounts of people who shoot a lot harder to kill. and dont remove lackeys everyone s lazy now and almost no one will rank manual anymore.


THIS

 By 3.51Carter 

 23/10/2012 

 12:28 pm 


Quote: Manager on 12:19:54 23-10-2012
No to:

With Lackeys every account will have 100% ks before even reaching the rank of Chief, so when everyone has 100% ks the use of killing skill is gone.
Add shoot the bottle and you might just aswell remove the use of killing skill. Keep killing skill for people that actually shoot someone.


Extra ranks after Bruglione, same story as the shoot the bottle story, Everyone will rank with lackeys anyway, it doesn\'t matter how many ranks you have, you\'ll have to keep adding more because everyone will reach to the maxrank with lackeys. Just keep it the way it is.
Yes:
I\'d prefer to see the comeback of the casinobank in combination with the pickpocketing from other families crime option.
Who said that with Lackeys, they\'ll get you kill skill? Lackeys shouldn\'t be able to do that crime, Therefore making you EARN your ks, just like everyone else, but with a safer approach.



 By 3.51Nicholai 

 23/10/2012 

 12:40 pm 

*Stronger accounts (harder to kill): this makes families stronger but individual players weaker so i don\'t agree. everyone does not have to be in a fam.

*Remove tiredness: with lackeys this makes no sense. without lackeys, get a life and spend some of your time to it.

*Shoot the bottle: this rocks!

*Bring back oldomerta: world is getting more screwed day by day so oldies are always goldies. yea, i want it back.

*Texas Hold\'em: doesn\'t matter.

*Ranks beyond Bruglione: with lackeys this makes no sense like all ranks.

*Remove the lackeys: 10 points option. yes remove it please. ranking is a significant feature of this game and with lackeys lots of things become meaningless. everyone has almost same rank with lackeys, why wouldn\'t i play dm instead of com? what s the difference between playing and non playing ppl?

*Oldschool ranking back: same with \"bring back oldomerta\"

 By 3.51Ibnezor 

 23/10/2012 

 12:44 pm 

Stronger accounts (harder to kill): yes, not only brugs, but chiefs too, it\'s just so easy to be killed even with full defense bg\'s
Remove tiredness: ofc yes, this feature doesn\'t fight rs at all
Shoot the bottle: no. if you put lackeys able to do it, everyone will have 100% in no time, if you don\'t make it available for lackeys, everyone will rs it.
Bring back oldomerta: dunno what this means, if it\'s about capo\'s beeing capodecina and old families spots style, yes.
Texas Hold\'em: yes, why not, but not a priority compared to the above.
Ranks beyond Bruglione: no, what\'s the point? We don\'t rank anymore, only lackeys, so...
Remove the lackeys: no.
Oldschool ranking back: dunno what this is.

 By 3.51Efisio 

 23/10/2012 

 12:45 pm 


Quote: Nicholai on 12:40:16 23-10-2012
*Stronger accounts (harder to kill): this makes families stronger but individual players weaker so i don\'t agree. everyone does not have to be in a fam.

*Ranks beyond Bruglione: with lackeys this makes no sense like all ranks.



Why does it make individual players weaker?

And why do ranks make no sense with lackeys?

 By 3.51Efisio 

 23/10/2012 

 12:50 pm 


Quote: Gmac on 11:32:00 23-10-2012

Shoot the Bottle: Can\'t have this with lackeys operating in the game simultaneously. If lackeys were removed, maybe, but even still, not necessary.


A lackey should not be able to shoot a bottle?
I think that actually might be nice since he might hit *you* so you would lose health while you are not even there. And with the rebirth it can mean that certain people still don\'t have 100% ks when they reach brug?


 By 3.51Efisio 

 23/10/2012 

 12:51 pm 


Quote: Tengri on 11:53:27 23-10-2012
Ranks beyond Bruglione
Stronger accounts (harder to kill)





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